Despite what, to them, must be depressing patronage numbers (see www.http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/07/02/bubkes-iii-tightly-controlled/#more-9065), RC continues what they obviously consider is “the good fight”.
In recent days they have generated a storm of controversy among a series of interested blogs – not only RC itself, but The Air Vent, Watts Up With That, and particularly Roger Pielke Sr’s Climate Science Blog.
The affair started when RC put up a post entitled “A Warning From Copenhagen” on 21 June 2009 – http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/06/a-warning-from-copenhagen/. RC followed this with another post entitled “Bubkes” on 26 June 2009 – http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/06/bubkes/. “Bubkes” is apparently a yiddish term that means ‘goat droppings’ (I may have that wrong).
Roger Pielke Sr responded with a post on 30 June 2009 at his website http://climatesci.org titled “Real Climate’s Misinformation” – http://climatesci.org/2009/06/30/real-climates-misinformation/
Roger Pielke Sr is a highly regarded climatologist, noted for his scientific rigour and commitment to integrity. He assiduously strives to maintain a balanced position based on his long term career as a climate scientist. His views can be readily accessed at his website, but to summarise, RPSr is of the view that it is not proven that manmade CO2 emissions pose a risk to mankind. However, he does express a view that mankind IS having an adverse effect on local, regional, and possibly global climate through land-use practices that are damaging the environment. For more detail visit his website. We should also note that RPSr does not allow comments at his blog. It seems that quite some time ago he became frustrated at dealing with comments and decided to exercise his blog proprietor’s right to suspend comments.
RPSr started his post as follows:
Real Climate posted a weblog on June 21 2009 titled “A warning from Copenhagen”. They report on a Synthesis Report of the Copenhagen Congress which was handed over to the Danish Prime Minister Rasmussen in Brussels the previous week.
Real Climate writes
“So what does it say? Our regular readers will hardly be surprised by the key findings from physical climate science, most of which we have already discussed here. Some aspects of climate change are progressing faster than was expected a few years ago – such as rising sea levels, the increase of heat stored in the ocean and the shrinking Arctic sea ice. “The updated estimates of the future global mean sea level rise are about double the IPCC projections from 2007″, says the new report. And it points out that any warming caused will be virtually irreversible for at least a thousand years – because of the long residence time of CO2 in the atmosphere.”
RPSr went on to challenge these statements in blunt terms: He debunked each of the elements of the bolded statement above as being “not true” and concluded
These climate metrics might again start following the predictions of the models. However, until and unless they do, the authors of the Copenhagen Congress Synthesis Report and the author of the Real Climate weblog are erroneously communicating the reality of the how the climate system is actually behaving.
Media and policymakers who blindly accept these claims are either naive or are deliberately slanting the science to promote their particular advocacy position.
On 30 June, WUWT put up a post “Roger Pielke Sr on Real Climate claims: “bubkes”. In this post, WUWT reproduced RPSr’s post at http://www.climatesci.org, but in a forum where there is high traffic, and where comments are allowed. Vigorous discussion ensued.
RC took strong exception to RPSr’s comments and put up a new post at RC on 1 July entitled “More Bubkes” – http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/07/more-bubkes/. RC’s Copenhagen post had attracted 394 posts, and the first Bubkes thread was even more active with, at the last time I looked, 754 posts.
RC open up with “Roger Pielke Sr. has raised very strong allegations against RealClimate in a recent blog post. Since they come from a scientific colleague, we consider it worthwhile responding directly.”
RPSr responded at http://www.climatesci.org on 2 July with a post titled “Response by Roger A Pielke Sr to the Real Climate weblog “More Bubkes”. Also on 2 July, WUWT put up a post: “Bubkes II – Real Climate’s Rush Hour”, followed by another post on the same day “Bubkes III – Tightly Controlled”.
On 3 July RPSr put up a post “Gavin Schmidt Interview on Media Hype on Climate Science Issues”.
Then on 5 July RPSr put up another post “Real Climate Permits Continued Presentation of Misinformation”, and then on 6 July he put up another post at http://www.climatesci.org “Real Climate Permits Continued Presentation of Misinformation – Part 11”. This post was picked up by WUWT on 6 July as “Pielke Sr on Real Climate – Continued Misinformation. It was also picked up by http://www.icecap.us.
The ‘debate’ has been picked up by numerous other websites, notably Jeff Id’s The Air Vent on 2 July with his post titled “Hubris”.
On our reading of the issues, RPSr is correct, and found out RC promulgating more spin.
However, the point of raising it all here is not to assess the issues under discussion, but to point out that the above threads contain many references to censorship at RC, which is of course the main theme of this thread. We will reproduce selected references in comments below, but urge that interested parties have a look at the threads discussed above. Much emerges from a review of those threads. But particularly, it becomes even more crystal clear how much RC tries to manage the message by censoring posts (and banning posters) that do not comply with their particular view of the world.
Unfortunately for RC, sunlight, in the form of intense discussion at other blogs, is showing them up even more for what they are – an advocacy site. By now, we can be sure that literally thousands of people around the world have followed the debate, and I would guess that there are upwards of 3000 comments on the various threads at RC, WUWT, and other sites.